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Apr 20, 2026
Apr 20, 2026
20 min
In this episode of the HR business marketing podcast, A Better HR Business, Ben and his guest, Conor Lynch, digital innovator, educator, and author of “Learn Earn Own”, talk about how individuals and HR professionals can future-proof their careers and businesses as technology accelerates the pace of change and automation looms.
Conor Lynch is a digital innovator and educator who grew his personal brand, Connector, from a side hustle into a seven-figure business. With over 25 years of experience across marketing, technology, and communications, he has worked with global brands including Guinness and Coca-Cola.
He began his career in traditional marketing after graduating from Smurfit College, Ireland’s leading business school, before moving into online and social media as the internet reshaped the industry. Today, he focuses on helping individuals and organisations build long-term digital assets, embracing AI and automation as the next major shift in work and business.
Learn Earn Own challenges the century-old idea of the career ladder—study hard, get a job, and climb the ranks—and argues it no longer reflects the reality of modern work. In today’s economy, relying on a single income stream is increasingly risky, and careers are shifting from linear paths to dynamic portfolios of assets.
Rather than encouraging people to quit their jobs, the book focuses on building alongside employment: learning new skills, creating additional income streams, and owning digital and intellectual assets that compound over time.
It introduces a practical framework for anyone—regardless of background—to become an “experimenter” by building career assets such as personal brands, digital products, content, networks, and expertise.
Packed with tools, templates, AI prompts, and real-world strategies, Learn Earn Own is a hands-on guide to designing a more independent, resilient, and opportunity-rich career in the age of AI.
You’ll hear practical strategies for using AI in consulting, business growth strategies for consultants, and how to stand out as a consultant amid rapid industry change. Whether you identify as HR, workplace, L&D, OD, recruitment, or people & culture, you’ll discover real stories and actionable advice to attract clients, win contracts, and grow sustainably.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- The “assets ladder” framework for long-term career value creation with or without entrepreneurship.
- Real-world examples of digital products, web apps, and personal brands as assets for consultants.
- How to experiment with AI tools and side projects—even as an employee—to future-proof your consulting career.
- Why building career assets is more sustainable than climbing a traditional career ladder, and how to get started.
Episode highlights:
- Conor’s journey: from traditional marketing roles to founding and selling a successful digital agency.
- The origin of the Connector business and the power of community-driven meetups.
- The shift from a career ladder to the “assets ladder”—what it means to build career assets in the modern world.
- Examples of digital and personal brand assets anyone can start building while still employed.
- Encouragement for experimentation and small steps toward asset creation, even for those not seeking entrepreneurship.
- Using collaborative partnerships to amplify asset-building efforts.
- Reflections on traditional career guidance versus the need for modern asset-based approaches.
- Perspectives on job security, risk, and creating multiple streams of income.
- The importance of learning technical skills in the era of AI, and tools like Claude Code for building simple web applications.
- Specific marketing and growth strategies: building community through events, consistent blogging, content repurposing into ebooks and tools, and leveraging collaborations.
- Advice for employees who want to experiment with side projects and building assets discreetly, including faceless offers and content products.
Resources & Links Mentioned:
- Conor’s website: www.conorlyn.ch
- Conor’s LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/conorlynch
While you're here...
Remember to grab your free ticket for the People Business Growth Summit!
It's a one-day online summit on marketing and growing people-focused services and HR tech businesses.
Tuesday, 28 April 2026
Online event
Free tickets available: https://summit.getmorehrclients.com
The People Business Growth Summit brings together founders and operators from HR consultancies and HR technology companies to share the real decisions that helped their businesses grow.
This is not theory or generic advice. Each session focuses on the actual growth decisions leaders made while building traction in their business.
You will hear the context they were in, the options they considered, what they chose to do, what worked, and what they would do differently next time.
Why attend
If you run an HR or people-focused business and want growth to feel more predictable in 2026, this summit is designed for you.
Across the day, speakers will share practical insights such as:
💡 What a successful consultancy founder is doing now to prepare her national firm for a future sale
💡 How HR tech and consulting firms win large corporate and enterprise deals
💡 The marketing mix used by successful early-stage HR software companies
💡 Hard-won lessons on scaling, systems, and leadership from experienced founders
💡 How to price HR consulting services so they fuel growth rather than cap it
💡 What to think about before merging with or acquiring another HR-related business
💡 How one consultant won her first client before she had even officially launched
💡 Marketing lessons from growing HR tech companies in recruitment, benefits, L&D and more
The goal is simple: practical insight you can actually use.
Who this summit is for
This event is for people who sell expertise or software, not internal HR teams.
You will get the most value if you are:
💡 A growing services firm selling HR, recruitment, L&D or people expertise
💡 A founder or marketing lead at an early-stage HR or workforce technology company
💡 Part of a small marketing team deciding where to focus next
💡 A solo consultant or small consultancy owner
If you want growth but do not want to spend the next six months pursuing the wrong strategy, this event will help you get clearer on your next move.
Tuesday, 28 April 2026
Online event
Free tickets available: https://summit.getmorehrclients.com

Apr 13, 2026
Apr 13, 2026
10 min
In this episode, Ben explains how “pre-conversion events” can help HR consultancies and HR tech firms win more business. Instead of relying only on surface-level marketing like posts, emails, and outreach, he shares ways to create deeper, more engaging experiences that warm prospects up before the sales call.
You’ll hear practical examples such as workshops, roundtables, bootcamps, partner webinars, mini-courses, customer panels, and case study sessions. Ben also explains why these approaches can lead to more sales conversations, easier demos, and higher conversion rates.
If your pipeline feels slow, or sales calls feel like too much hard work, this episode offers a smarter way to build trust before the meeting even starts.
While you're here...
Remember to grab your free ticket for the People Business Growth Summit!
It's a one-day online summit on marketing and growing people-focused services and HR tech businesses.
Tuesday, 28 April 2026
Online event
Free tickets available: https://summit.getmorehrclients.com
The People Business Growth Summit brings together founders and operators from HR consultancies and HR technology companies to share the real decisions that helped their businesses grow.
This is not theory or generic advice. Each session focuses on the actual growth decisions leaders made while building traction in their business.
You will hear the context they were in, the options they considered, what they chose to do, what worked, and what they would do differently next time.
Why attend
If you run an HR or people-focused business and want growth to feel more predictable in 2026, this summit is designed for you.
Across the day, speakers will share practical insights such as:
💡 What a successful consultancy founder is doing now to prepare her national firm for a future sale
💡 How HR tech and consulting firms win large corporate and enterprise deals
💡 The marketing mix used by successful early-stage HR software companies
💡 Hard-won lessons on scaling, systems, and leadership from experienced founders
💡 How to price HR consulting services so they fuel growth rather than cap it
💡 What to think about before merging with or acquiring another HR-related business
💡 How one consultant won her first client before she had even officially launched
💡 Marketing lessons from growing HR tech companies in recruitment, benefits, L&D and more
The goal is simple: practical insight you can actually use.
Who this summit is for
This event is for people who sell expertise or software, not internal HR teams.
You will get the most value if you are:
💡 A growing services firm selling HR, recruitment, L&D or people expertise
💡 A founder or marketing lead at an early-stage HR or workforce technology company
💡 Part of a small marketing team deciding where to focus next
💡 A solo consultant or small consultancy owner
If you want growth but do not want to spend the next six months pursuing the wrong strategy, this event will help you get clearer on your next move.
Tuesday, 28 April 2026
Online event
Free tickets available: https://summit.getmorehrclients.com

Mar 26, 2026
Mar 26, 2026
18 min
Most job platforms say they help you “get more applicants.”
What employers actually need is understanding why roles aren’t getting filled - and fixing that.
Yevhen Onatsko, US Country Manager at Jooble, shares his take on growing internationally, using data smartly, and building strong partnerships - lessons that are very useful for anyone in HR tech or looking to expand their business.
Jooble is a global job search aggregator operating in 60+ countries, connecting millions of job seekers with opportunities every day.
What really caught my attention, beyond the scale, was how they think about growth, data, and partnerships.
Instead of just driving traffic, they focus on what actually matters:
💡 why candidates aren’t applying
💡 how job visibility varies by market
💡 what employers need to change to attract the right people
💡 how user behavior shifts across devices and regions
Two things really stood out for me:
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They don’t treat data as reporting - they use it as a diagnosis.
It’s not “you need more clicks.” It’s “here’s why this role isn’t converting.” -
They’ve built flexibility into their model. Different markets, different clients, different needs—no one-size-fits-all approach.
Yevhen shared a great example:
Instead of pushing more traffic to a struggling job post, their data might reveal the real issue: poor job positioning, unclear salary, or a mismatch with local demand.
That’s the difference between volume and insight.
Now, the growth side (because everyone asks):
💡 Build strong partnerships (aggregators, job boards, agencies)
💡 Focus on business development, not just inbound
💡 Be present where your industry is (events, associations like TA Tech)
💡 Treat SEO as infrastructure—capture demand across every role and location
💡 Adapt to new search behavior (yes, including AI tools like ChatGPT)
And one big takeaway for HR tech founders:
Credibility beats visibility.
HR buyers don’t respond to noise—they respond to trust, relevance, and education.
If you’re building in HR tech, recruiting, or marketplaces, this one’s worth your time.
Website: www.jooble.org
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/yevhen-onatsko-17150784
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About The A Better HR Business Podcast
The A Better HR Business shares strategies, tactics, success stories, and more about marketing for HR consultancies and marketing for HR tech companies, and how to get more clients.
Follow the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don’t miss future episodes.
For show notes and to see details of our previous guests, check out the podcast page here:
www.GetMoreHRClients.com/Podcast
HR BUSINESS GROWTH RESOURCES
- Get the new book - Grow A Successful HR Business Your Way
- Launch your own business podcast: B2B Podcast Agency
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Mar 13, 2026

Feb 24, 2026
Feb 24, 2026
18 min
In a recent episode of the HR business marketing podcast, A Better HR Business, Ben and his guest, Val Esway, founder of Work with Val, talk about the challenges of hiring, compliance, and employee management for small and growing businesses across the US and Canada.
Val Esway partners with founders and leadership teams to build the recruiting and HR foundations necessary for sustainable growth. With a background spanning early-stage startups, e-commerce brands, and agencies, she has served as a People & Talent Manager, Director of Operations, and Chief of Staff. This unique trajectory allows her to bridge the gap between human-centric HR and the gritty operational realities founders face daily.
Val has completed over 150 projects focused on hiring strategy, HR infrastructure, and people operations. She specializes in helping scaling businesses move away from "firefighting" toward practical, hands-on systems that support first hires and beyond. Val brings a grounded, collaborative approach to every engagement, ensuring leaders can make confident people decisions as their teams evolve.
Val loves sharing her expertise via talks and training sessions. Popular topics include compliance basics, choosing the right HR tools, and navigating the complexities of pay structures (e.g., W-2 vs. 1099). She’s happy to tailor discussions to what founders and business owners need most.
You’ll hear practical strategies for client acquisition, running a workplace consulting business, and packaging consulting offers. Whether you identify as HR, workplace, L&D, OD, recruitment, or people & culture, you’ll discover real stories and actionable advice to attract clients, win contracts, and grow sustainably.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How to get more clients as a consultant through referrals and personalized service
- Insights into running a workplace consulting business for smaller and younger companies, including compliance, recruitment, and team development
- Val Esway’s journey, including lessons from cleaning up compliance issues, helping founders make their first hires, and developing high-touch HR solutions
Episode highlights:
- Val Esway’s background and the types of clients Work with Val serves (00:47)
- Common HR challenges faced by small and young businesses, especially those without dedicated HR staff (01:12)
- Navigating performance management and terminations thoughtfully and compliantly (02:42)
- The impact of terminations on the wider team and why respect matters (03:25)
- Recruitment support: Helping founders clarify what role they truly need and managing the hiring process end-to-end (05:11)
- Special considerations for e-commerce founders transitioning from agency relationships to hiring in-house staff (08:01)
- Popular training topics for business owners, including compliance basics and choosing HR systems (10:01)
- Common mistakes in hiring, pay structure, and contractor versus employee classification (12:09)
- Why many growing businesses rely on referrals and the value of a personalized, high-touch consultancy (16:03)
Resources & Links Mentioned:
- Work with Val website: www.valesway.com
- Val's LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/valesway
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About The A Better HR Business Podcast
The A Better HR Business shares strategies, tactics, success stories, and more about marketing for HR consultancies and marketing for HR tech companies, and how to get more clients.
Follow the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don’t miss future episodes.
For show notes and to see details of our previous guests, check out the podcast page here:
www.GetMoreHRClients.com/Podcast
HR BUSINESS GROWTH RESOURCES
- Get the new book - Grow A Successful HR Business Your Way
- Launch your own business podcast: B2B Podcast Agency
VISIT GET MORE HR CLIENTS
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Feb 16, 2026
Feb 16, 2026
15 min
When companies use realistic job simulations, they can finally see beyond CVs and surface true talent, regardless of background.
Removing bias from recruitment isn’t theoretical; it’s achievable. Grounding hiring decisions in real-world, data-driven simulations gives every candidate a fair shot and helps teams identify who will actually succeed in the role.
Smart hiring isn’t about who interviews best. It’s about who performs best.
Stephane Rivard, CEO and co-founder of HiringBranch, a Montreal-based company using AI and job simulations to transform high-volume recruitment, shares the evolution of Hiring Branch, why traditional interviews fall short, and how data-driven, skill-based hiring can result in fairer, and more consistent outcomes.
Other topics we covered in our conversation:
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Evolution from language and soft-skills training to data-driven, skills-based assessments.
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Why success in customer-facing roles goes beyond empathy to skills like rapport, grit, and critical thinking.
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The difficulty of replacing traditional interviews and reducing bias in hiring.
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How HiringBranch adapts its platform across industries using deep, role-specific data.
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Go-to-market insights: experimentation, conferences, networking, and customer outcomes.
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Advice for HR tech firms on partnerships, focus, and differentiation.
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And much more!
If you’re interested in fair and effective hiring practices, data-driven HR, or the future of skills assessment, this conversation offers a grounded, experience-based look at what works and what’s changing in the world of recruitment.
Website: www.hiringbranch.com
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/stephane-rivard-entrepreneur
Check out this B2B podcast launch service.
About The A Better HR Business Podcast
The A Better HR Business shares strategies, tactics, success stories, and more about marketing for HR consultancies and marketing for HR tech companies, and how to get more clients.
Follow the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don’t miss future episodes.
For show notes and to see details of our previous guests, check out the podcast page here:
www.GetMoreHRClients.com/Podcast
HR BUSINESS GROWTH RESOURCES
- Get the new book - Grow A Successful HR Business Your Way
- Launch your own business podcast: B2B Podcast Agency
VISIT GET MORE HR CLIENTS
Want more clients for your HR-related consultancy or HR Tech business?
Visit the Get More HR Clients website for articles, newsletters, podcasts, videos, resources, and more at www.getmorehrclients.com.

Feb 5, 2026
Feb 5, 2026
23 min
Hiring for remote roles sounds easy in theory.
In reality? It’s noisy, rushed, and increasingly flooded with AI-generated applications.
That’s why I enjoyed learning about Isidora Mayer, CEO of FlatWorld and her very human take on global hiring.
FlatWorld isn’t just about skills matching.
It’s about fit: company culture, personal happiness, and long-term success on both sides.
Isidora’s own leadership journey says a lot. She went from candidate to CEO by believing deeply in the mission and keeping people at the heart of every decision.
Proof that rejection isn’t the end, it can be the beginning.
So what does Flatworld actually do?
They help companies overwhelmed by AI noise find real human candidates fast.
What makes it different:
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12-minute pre-employment assessments that filter for real skills
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Asynchronous video responses (less stress, more authenticity)
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Personality fit tailored to each company—not cookie-cutter profiles
The process is sharp but thoughtful:
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~70% of applicants filtered via technical tests
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Short video answers for the rest
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A final, company-specific personality fit layer
Most growth comes from long-term partners and word of mouth, because trust still wins.
And the business model?
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FlatWorld only gets paid if you hire
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No upfront fees
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No subscriptions
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No risk
FlatWorld is especially well-suited for:
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Growing tech companies hiring remote dev or product talent
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US & EU companies making cross-border hires
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Teams who care about real happiness—not just filling seats
What’s next?
Cutting through the AI noise. Helping companies spot real humans and helping real humans find companies who’ll truly value them.
If you’re building a remote tech team or trying to make sense of AI-driven hiring, Isidora’s story (and FlatWorld’s model) is a good reminder that putting people first still works and still wins.
Website: www.flatworld.co
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/izimayer
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About The A Better HR Business Podcast
The A Better HR Business shares strategies, tactics, success stories, and more about marketing for HR consultancies and marketing for HR tech companies, and how to get more clients.
Follow the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don’t miss future episodes.
For show notes and to see details of our previous guests, check out the podcast page here:
www.GetMoreHRClients.com/Podcast
HR BUSINESS GROWTH RESOURCES
- Get the new book - Grow A Successful HR Business Your Way
- Launch your own business podcast: B2B Podcast Agency
VISIT GET MORE HR CLIENTS
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Jan 20, 2026
Jan 20, 2026
25 min
Employee benefits aren’t about money.
They’re about how people feel.
When leaders offer personalized perks, employees feel seen, valued, and more connected to the company. Genuine care in culture beats bigger paychecks.
A strong workplace isn’t built on swag. It’s built on choice, recognition, and everyday experiences employees actually enjoy.
On my latest episode of A Better HR Business, I sat down with Jordan Peace, CEO & Co-Founder of Fringe, to explore why personalized perks are reshaping recruitment, retention, and engagement.
Fringe is built on a marketplace of lifestyle benefits - everything from massage memberships and clothing subscriptions to larger, meaningful purchases. The goal? Immediate value and real excitement.
As Jordan shared:
“We wanted to put the power in the hands of employees to choose what benefits were most relevant to them and their families.”
In this episode, we cover:
- Why traditional benefits often miss the mark
- How personalized perks fit into daily life
- Closing the gap between employer spend and employee value
- Using tailored benefits to boost loyalty and engagement
- Building trust through authenticity and transparency
We also had an interesting conversation about the value of Fringe's B2B podcast. Jordan discussed:
- Podcasting makes it easier to start conversations with the exact people you want as customers, partners, or investors. Podcast conversations often open doors that cold emails never will. A podcast gives you a reason to reach out that feels generous, not salesy.
- Long-form conversations build trust faster than ads, posts, or cold outreach. Podcasts reward honesty and stories more than polished messaging.
- You don’t need a complex content plan if you can show up and talk like a real human. Podcasting works best when it reflects how you actually think and speak.
- A show can double as relationship-building, learning, and brand visibility. Being a podcast guest or host positions you as a peer, not a vendor.
- Marketing works better when it feels like a conversation, not a campaign.
Check out this B2B podcast launch service.
If you’re building or marketing an HR business, this episode breaks down how personalized perks can drive retention, loyalty, and real engagement, without increasing payroll.
Website: www.fringe.us
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-peace-fringe
About The A Better HR Business Podcast
The A Better HR Business shares strategies, tactics, success stories, and more about marketing for HR consultancies and marketing for HR tech companies, and how to get more clients.
Follow the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don’t miss future episodes.
For show notes and to see details of our previous guests, check out the podcast page here:
www.GetMoreHRClients.com/Podcast
HR BUSINESS GROWTH RESOURCES
- Get the new book - Grow A Successful HR Business Your Way
- Get More HR Clients Business Growth Kit - Get More HR Clients Kit
- Launch your own business podcast: B2B Podcast Agency
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Jan 6, 2026
Jan 6, 2026
17 min
After a long break, Disrupt Dublin is returning on Thursday, 26 February 2026, bringing fast talks, sharp thinking, and real conversations about the future of work in Ireland.
In this episode, I’m joined by my event co-host Bill Banham, Editor of HR Gazette, host of the HRchat Podcast, and one of the long-standing forces behind Disrupt events across the UK, Ireland, the US, and Canada.
We talk about why now is the right time to relaunch Disrupt Dublin, what makes the format different from traditional HR conferences, and what attendees can expect on the night.
Discrupt Dublin: https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/disrupt-dublin-returns-tickets-1976595846385?aff=bg
What Is Disrupt?
Disrupt was founded in 2013 in Cincinnati and has since run events in more than 170 cities worldwide. Its format is simple and demanding:
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Five-minute talks
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Twenty slides
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Slides auto-advance every 15 seconds
Speakers have no room to waffle. They must be clear, direct, and honest. The result is high-energy talks that get straight to the point and often say the things people are already thinking but rarely hear on stage.
Bill explains how this format changes the dynamic for both speakers and audiences, creating a sense of shared risk, focus, and connection. The aim is not polished perfection, but useful ideas that spark new thinking.
Why Disrupt Dublin Matters
This will be the first Disrupt event in Dublin since before the pandemic, and the relaunch is designed to feel social, open, and practical.
Rather than a full-day conference, Disrupt Dublin is an evening event with time built in for proper conversations. Talks are recorded and added to the global Disrupt library, which now hosts thousands of short presentations from around the world.
Topics on the night will span leadership, culture, talent, technology, learning, wellbeing, and how work is really changing in 2026 and beyond.
Tickets here: https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/disrupt-dublin-returns-tickets-1976595846385?aff=bg.
Event Details
Date
Thursday, 26 February 2026
Time
5:00 pm to 8:30 pm GMT
Location
Personio Dublin
Georges Quay House, 43 Townsend Street, Dublin 2
Agenda
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5:00 – 6:00 Registration and networking
Drinks, canapés, and first conversations -
6:00 – 6:15 Welcome and opening remarks
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6:15 – 7:00 Lightning Talks – Round One
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7:00 – 7:15 Break
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7:15 – 8:00 Lightning Talks – Round Two
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8:00 – 8:30 Wrap-up and final networking
Speakers Include
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Kelsey Cates, Global Head of Learning Experiences, Google
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Elizabeth Buckley, HR Director, Forvis Mazars
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John Kennedy FCIPD, Head of HR Organisational Development, Iarnród Éireann and Vice Chair, CIPD Ireland National Committee
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Dr. Mary Collins, Chartered Psychologist, Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland
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Simon Peter Haigh, Founder and CEO, GCM Growth Group
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Ivan Stojanovic, Co-founder, Taladria
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Bill Banham, Editor, HR Gazette
More speakers and partners will be announced closer to the event.
Who It’s For
Disrupt Dublin is designed for in-house HR and Talent professionals, people leaders, founders, researchers, and workplace innovators. Capacity is limited, and priority will be given to practitioners and guests of partners and speakers.
How to Attend
Places are limited. Registration does not guarantee entry, and tickets may be refunded if the event is full or attendee criteria are not met.
Tickets here: https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/disrupt-dublin-returns-tickets-1976595846385?aff=bg.
If you are looking for a short, high-energy event that challenges standard thinking and brings together people who are actively shaping work in Ireland, this is one to put in the diary.
About The A Better HR Business Podcast
The A Better HR Business shares strategies, tactics, success stories, and more about marketing for HR consultancies and marketing for HR tech companies, and how to get more clients.
Follow the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don’t miss future episodes.
For show notes and to see details of our previous guests, check out the podcast page here:
www.GetMoreHRClients.com/Podcast
HR BUSINESS GROWTH RESOURCES
- Get the new book - Grow A Successful HR Business Your Way
- Launch your own business podcast: B2B Podcast Agency
- Get the powerful marketing platform -HR Growth Engine™.
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Dec 5, 2025
Dec 5, 2025
8 min
Whether you run an HR software company or an HR consultancy, one thing is always true: big annual revenue targets only work when you turn them into simple weekly actions that actually bring in demos, sales calls, consulting calls, and new clients.
In Episode 299 of the A Better HR Business podcast, Ben outlines a clearer, calmer way to think about sales planning for the year ahead. The ideas apply equally to software founders and consulting firms.
(Full show notes and resources list here: https://getmorehrclients.com/blog/a-clear-sales-plan-for-hr-tech-and-hr-consultancies/).
Here is a taste of what is covered...
Start with one number
There is one surprisingly simple number that reveals exactly how many demos or consulting calls you need each week. Most HR businesses never calculate it. Once you do, planning becomes far easier.
Work backwards from the goal
Instead of trying to be everywhere, there is a cleaner way to map your activity. Ben explains how to reverse-engineer your pipeline so your marketing and sales efforts work together rather than in bursts.
Get really good at two or three growth activities
More channels do not always mean more clients. Ben shares why most HR tech firms and HR consultancies see better results when they master a couple of activities deeply while using the others to support the core engine.
Add small moments of wow to your client experience
A few thoughtful improvements in onboarding or delivery can increase conversions, retention, and referrals. Ben recommends a book that will reshape how you think about client experience.
Lead nurturing is the silent deal-maker
You may have heard the old idea of seven touchpoints. Ben explains why that is outdated and why B2B HR often requires many more interactions before someone is ready to talk. He also covers why so many deals are lost long before the sales call or demo.
How HR Growth Engine fits into the picture
If you struggle to follow up consistently, keep leads warm, or manage all your touchpoints across different platforms, Ben gives a short overview of how HR Growth Engine helps HR firms stay in front of their audience with less manual effort.
Stories from inside the HR industry
Some firms grew with low-cost ads. Others filled webinars with ideal prospects. Others grew simply by improving their follow-up. Ben shares the common thread behind all these wins.
Listen now
If you want a straightforward, practical approach to planning your HR business growth for the year, this episode will help you simplify the process.
Listen to Episode 299 of A Better HR Business.
If you want help building a simple, consistent growth system for your HR business or want to explore HR Growth Engine, visit Get More HR Clients or go straight to www.getmorehrclients.com/hr-growth-engine.
About The A Better HR Business Podcast
The A Better HR Business shares strategies, tactics, success stories, and more about marketing for HR consultancies and marketing for HR tech companies, and how to get more clients.
Follow the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don’t miss future episodes.
For show notes and to see details of our previous guests, check out the podcast page here:
www.GetMoreHRClients.com/Podcast
HR BUSINESS GROWTH RESOURCES
- Get the new book - Grow A Successful HR Business Your Way
- Get More HR Clients Business Growth Kit - Get More HR Clients Kit
- Launch your own business podcast: B2B Podcast Agency
- Get the powerful marketing platform -HR Growth Engine™.
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